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MKV R32 Supercharger data thread | VW Vortex


This thread is meant as a spot to consolidate data on supercharger equipment choices. I’ll record what I’ve discovered thus far beneath and can replace this preliminary put up if / when any new choices pop up or new data involves gentle. I’ve taken a lot of the beneath strait from the web sites linked within the data, however am offering this as a abstract based mostly on that plus a number of tidbits I’ve picked up right here and there. Please let me know if anybody finds something that isn’t correct and I’ll replace. If you wish to argue the deserves of FI vs NA, or SC vs Turbo, or somewhat it is worthwhile to spend X quantity cash modding the MKV R32, this thread shouldn’t be meant for you. That is meant for people who find themselves within the concept of a supercharged MKV R32, need to know what the choices are and have any data not already posted to share alongside these strains. I’ll attempt to search out data on right here, Golf MKV, R32OC and wherever else so as to add to this thread. Any opinions or data from individuals who have put in these kits would actually be useful. Any assist monitoring this type of stuff down, particularly from any Dutch or German audio system who can search boards in these nations too can be tremendously appreciated!

Supercharger equipment choices:

TVS Engineering AKA VR6specialist (Netherlands)

* Will promote to the US? Sure – supplied assurance of competent installer and settlement to maintain
equipment design particulars secret (i.e. share no data / pics revealing any extra element then their website offers)
* SC producer: Rotrex
* SC mounting association: secret, however stated to be consistent with belt, but retaining AC
* {Hardware} / software program developed by: TVS

Stage 1 (not bought individually, however offers foundation for levels 2 and three):

Website states that stage 1 shouldn’t be at present bought stand alone, refers prospects to levels
2 + 3. Solely itemizing as a result of the stage 1 web page accommodates a lot of the bottom equipment data which
shouldn’t be repeated on the stage 2 and three pages (they refer again to stage 1).

Stage 2 (stage 1 + intercooler):

Prices: € 6490.00 (excl vat)
Energy:
340-370hp
+/- 400Nm (295 FT LB)

Stage 3 (stage 2 + lowered compression through head gasket spacer or JE pistons):

Prices: € 7990.00 (excl vat)
Energy:
395-425hp
400+Nm (295 FT LB)

RUF Kompressoren AG, (Switzerland) (to not be confused with the RUF recognized to Porsche peeps)

* Will promote to US? Not recognized if RUF would promote direct. Was initially bought by ABT Sportsline
who wouldn’t promote to the US (they now not promote in any respect), although Carliscious elements will promote to the US.
* SC producer: RUF
* SC mounting association: reverse facet of motor from belt, pushed by shaft beneath motor
* {Hardware} / software program developed by: RUF

Some primary data right here
This web page exhibits the ability numbers quoted beneath

Stage 1
˜310 PS / 350 NM (306 HP / 258 FT LB)

Stage 2
˜370 PS / 390 NM (365 HP / 288 FT LB)

There is no such thing as a data concerning a stage 3, however an intercooler is talked about as an extra improve (which it seems is listed by Carlicious as stage 3)

Carlicious Elements (Germany)

* Will promote to US? Sure
* SC producer: RUF
* SC mounting association: reverse facet of motor from belt, pushed by shaft beneath motor
* {Hardware} / software program developed by: RUF

Stage 1
$6150 USD (4.749,00 €) together with VAT + delivery
+65 hp/nm (48 FT LB) over inventory

Stage 2 (stage 1 plus injectors and totally different SC unit*)
$6800 USD (5.249,00 €) together with VAT + delivery
+85 hp/nm (63 FT LB) over inventory

Stage 3 (stage 2 plus intercooler and totally different SC unit*)
$9100 USD (6.999,00 €) together with VAT + delivery
+120 hp/nm (89 FT LB) over inventory

*Notice that the SC is totally different between kits which means that an improve path shouldn’t be so simple as including the additional elements of the following stage equipment – you want a distinct SC or can doubtlessly order particular person parts of the SC and rebuild it (per Carliscious)

Turner Race Developments AKA TRD, (UK) (to not be confused with Toyota Racing Growth AKA TRD)

* Will promote to US? No – will solely promote the equipment when put in by them
* SC producer: RUF
* SC mounting association: reverse facet of motor from belt, pushed by shaft beneath motor
* {Hardware} / software program developed by: RUF

Storm Developments, (UK)

* Will promote to US? No – they solely did a one off set up and aren’t prone to do one other one
* SC producer: Rotrex
* SC mounting association: consistent with belt, instead of air-con unit
* {Hardware} / software program developed by: Storm (one off)

Others – I’ve contacted each UM and HPA just lately (April, 2012) to inquire about any potential future SC kits for the MKV R32 and so they each instructed me that they had no plans to supply one.

Abstract ideas, opinions, assumptions and stuff:

It seems that the RUF kits bought by means of Carlicsious and the TVS kits are the one choices out there presently.

Similarities / issues to contemplate for both:

Each kits embrace an ECU flash, although the shopper must ship their ECU to get it achieved. Having UM or another person do a customized map is feasible, however may very well be very costly. The man with the one off equipment from Storm within the UK (dazzm) stated they spent a LOT of hours tuning his ECU.

Emissions is an enormous unknown. TVS states on their website that they don’t disable any emissions sensors / gear and that vehicles with their kits will shouldn’t check in another way than inventory (sounds good, however laborious to say until somebody tries it…). RUF has a small assertion of their FAQ concerning emissions, however appears nation particular and unclear as to somewhat emissions check outcomes can be totally different earlier than and after.

Help may very well be a problem contemplating the time zone distinction and presumably language barrier. Can be nice to seek out any current prospects that may touch upon the help from both firm. This looks like doubtlessly much less of a problem with TVS since they’re each the producer and vendor of their product, have a broad vary of different merchandise and workers to help ongoing R&D plus buyer installs and so forth.

Variations:

Supercharger bodily location throughout the engine bay appears to be the largest hurdle to designing a equipment for the MKV R32, and the 2 kits seem very totally different on this regard (the one construct by Storm was additionally totally different than both equipment). The RUF equipment makes use of a protracted drive shaft operating beneath the entrance of the motor which -seems- like not the very best concept (based mostly on assumption – no info to base this on). The TVS equipment location is one thing that they do not need to reveal a lot element on as a result of they do not need anybody to repeat their equipment, however they assured me that the charger is consistent with the belt and doesn’t use a drive shaft.

So far as I can inform, RUF designs and manufactures their very own superchargers and solely have a number of fashions out there. They look like a really small firm. Thus, their superchargers could also be prime quality, however it’s powerful to say as there could also be only a few folks on the market operating them. TVS makes use of Rotrex superchargers. Rotrex is a a lot greater firm who’s merchandise are utilized in a big range of purposes, so so far as the supercharger unit itself goes, they appear like a a lot safer wager.

Not attempting to forged a unfavorable gentle on RUF however based mostly on the above (admittedly – largely assumption based mostly), TVS -appears- to be the higher possibility (IMHO). Shopping for both equipment with out listening to from current prospects can be a leap of religion contemplating their price, so any assist monitoring down extra data (i.e. opinions / testimonials from house owners) can be tremendously appreciated!

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